Kieryn and Eve talk about Jill Duggar Dillard’s book, Counting The Cost. How and why it felt different from Jinger’s Becoming Free Indeed, and how difficult it is to escape high control environments when the stakes are so high. 

Also, for more info on Christian Zionism:

Get the book:

https://bookshop.org/p/books/counting-the-cost-jill-duggar/20124574

Kieryn and Eve sit down with Sarah Stankorb to talk about her book, Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning. Covering the origins of the #ChurchToo movement (featuring some friends of the pod!) and how to approach telling stories involving religious trauma in a way that is healing.

**notes**

Buy The book (or a VPN sub then the book if  you’re in DE)

https://bookshop.org/p/books/disobedient-women-how-a-small-group-of-faithful-women-exposed-abuse-brought-down-powerful-pastors-and-ignited-an-evangelical-reckoning-sarah-stankorb/19462415

Sarah’s Website:

http://sarahstankorb.com/

Kieyn and Eve chat with Shiny Happy People producer Cori Shepherd Stern about how the documentary was made and why it’s important to tell stories this way. 

Follow Cori:

https://www.instagram.com/girlseeksworld/

https://www.instagram.com/storyforceco/

Eve and Kieryn discuss Jinger’s book Free Indeed, on disentangling (not deconstructing) christianity from the teachings of Bill Gothard, and share a bit about their paths out too.

Show Notes:

https://people.com/tv/duggar-family-prime-video-docuseries-shiny-happy-people-trailer-exclusive/

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